Posted by: beccamariej | December 11, 2012

Batman is Mary Sue

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So, there’s this girl. She’s tragically orphaned and richer than anyone on the planet. 
Every guy she meets falls in love with her, but in between torrid romances she rejects them all because she dedicated to what is Pure and Good. She has genius level intellect, Olympic-athelete level athletic ability and incredible good looks. 
She is consumed by terrible  angst, but this only makes guys want her more. She has no superhuman abilities, yet she is more competent than her superhuman friends and defeats superhumans with ease. She has unshakably loyal friends and allies, despite the fact she treats them pretty badly. They fear and respect her, and defer to her orders. 
Everyone is obsessed with her, even her enemies are attracted to her. She can plan ahead for anything and she’s generally right with any conclusion she makes. People who defy her are inevitably wrong. God, what a Mary Sue

I found this post on tumblr. Here is the link to the post itself: [x] & here is a link to the conversation between two guys about this realization: [x

I’ve never really been a big superhero person, I haven’t even seen The Avengers, but this goes along great with one of the overriding themes of this course: media representation. 

Also, for those of you who have never heard of a Mary Sue before, here is the definition: 

A fictional character, usually female and especially in fanfic, whose implausible talents and likeableness weaken the story.

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  1. OH MY GOODNESS. Even my mind in blown, and I’ve been in class this whole semester…I never applied it to comic books.
    Also, I love the reactions from both of the guys. It shows that society may have been led astray, but if presented with logic, it can reverse to a more ungendered lens.

  2. Mind is still blown.

  3. The less popular male equivalent is the term “Gary Stu,” and Batman seems to fit that perfectly. I’ve heard that Mary Sues are best understood as wish fulfillment. Someone makes a character who is (in their eyes), enchanting, powerful, unique, and loved by multiple handsome men.

    Gary Stu’s are way more common in popular media, though (*cough*superman*cough*). And they’re also a wish fulfillment character, but for a hyper masculine dream. They are powerful, paradoxically average at first glance, and manage to attract any women they come into contact with.

    It’s projecting what you want to be onto a character, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing. It’s a problem if you make the character too perfect, because those characters get boring fast. There’s a reason Superman fell out of popularity.

    I wonder then, how people respond differently to a Gary Stu compared to a Mary Sue. I think Gary Stu’s are more normalized in our public expectations.


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